Oh how i wish that were true. It may be true for the most ruthless of women, with some other motive besides breeding. I like to think that everyone has some standards. Otherwise so many tech rich guys do not fall for the honeypot Far beyond their pay grade, how ever high it may seem. She was not real. Would not ever have been there for real. Some of them even know this and do not care. The icks are real and they know it. https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/yj0gq3/the_strange_death_of_makerdao_cofounder_nikolai/
Maybe there’s at least two variants of the Ick Factor: (1) Case Ed discusses in video where woman rejects a potential mate in a sudden gestalt crystallization after she’s been gradually super-saturated with a bunch of iffy signs that this guy might not be quite right evolutionary pick. (2) The 4-7 year itch after pairing up and reproducing. We think this one is baked in programming to promote genetic diversity in subsequent offspring once children can walk and talk, etc. In this case, female will have had plenty of time to have collected and filed away a bunch of her mate’s idiosyncrasies and will be able to select several to justify her actions to her female cohort (essential for reproductive reasons that she stay in good with them back in the cave).
Maybe he meant known connection with high IQ to openness.... perhaps more conservative openness, not creative type. Pure openness=creativity is risk factor.
Being high in most traits is bad. The key word is optimum. High openness = schizoid, high extraversion: getting into trouble, high agreeableness: gullible, high neuroticism: depression, high conscientiousness: rigidity and inability to adapt to new situations. Optimum neuroticism: detect danger, effective disgust response and so on. Low neuroticism: put yourself in danger for lack of fear detection.
Parallel between ick factor realisation and religious revelation is interesting. Idea of subconscious perceptions and sensations gradually building up to be triggered by final innocuous event. Rather reminds me of certain groups and their behaviours, which over time, like death by a thousand small cuts, propel an individual further along a particular path until finally, some book or speech or substack article launches them into a wholly new understanding of reality, wherein a great deal that previously made little sense at all, or was just jarringly irregular or irrational, suddenly becomes clear in the brightest of colours and contrasts.
This video states the truth. I totally understand the pencil case issue. It happened to me once when I saw my then boyfriend crying like a child. I can't describe the feeling of disgust/disrespect that I had and it never went away. I never got over it and eventually broke up with him. I never told him the real reason why we broke up since I was and still am ashamed of admitting it, definitely not proud of that. I know other women with pretty similar stories.
And interesting the phenomena where after ruthlessly ending the relationship as you say because of accretive instances , but manifesting as revelation, the opposite can occur, I.e. maybe the female has misread her own sexual marketplace value , maybe the man makes a few changes to his persona or appearance , and suddenly the ex is running after your car as you try to exit the supermarket begging you to return (as happened to me)...
Yup, same happened to me. And I never take them back into a serious relationship because you can't trust them. I know that they will just give me the ick again over something else. So that's when they make good concubine material because i'm rich and the girl won't leave. You still get icks from woman when you make lots of money and are muscular with 10% body fat. You just don't see them doing it. It's just that the money and muscles compensates for the icks they feel. I'm currently looking for a partner and I test woman to find the best one. I test by finding out their secret icks about me. If they have any icks, I don't take them seriously. But I will fuck the shit out of them. I mean really, I'm rich and got a good body but they still got icks. Woman are crazy.
Ok, I’ll bite. I broke up with a man who used to say “coffee drinks” and “treats”, as in, “would you like me to make you a coffee drink?” And “let’s all go back to my house and have some treats.” I was like nails on a chalkboard. He wasn’t gay, didn’t have that gay-sounding voice that so many men have now, it was incongruous. And he had a lot of money and my mom liked him, but in the end, I just couldn’t put up with it. I’m sure there were other things he said, but those stick out in my head 15 years later.
If the man is wealthy he has no “icks”.
Oh how i wish that were true. It may be true for the most ruthless of women, with some other motive besides breeding. I like to think that everyone has some standards. Otherwise so many tech rich guys do not fall for the honeypot Far beyond their pay grade, how ever high it may seem. She was not real. Would not ever have been there for real. Some of them even know this and do not care. The icks are real and they know it. https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/yj0gq3/the_strange_death_of_makerdao_cofounder_nikolai/
Maybe there’s at least two variants of the Ick Factor: (1) Case Ed discusses in video where woman rejects a potential mate in a sudden gestalt crystallization after she’s been gradually super-saturated with a bunch of iffy signs that this guy might not be quite right evolutionary pick. (2) The 4-7 year itch after pairing up and reproducing. We think this one is baked in programming to promote genetic diversity in subsequent offspring once children can walk and talk, etc. In this case, female will have had plenty of time to have collected and filed away a bunch of her mate’s idiosyncrasies and will be able to select several to justify her actions to her female cohort (essential for reproductive reasons that she stay in good with them back in the cave).
People high in openness are screwed then. They'll have schizotypal revelations all day long seeing connections that don't exist.
Maybe he meant known connection with high IQ to openness.... perhaps more conservative openness, not creative type. Pure openness=creativity is risk factor.
https://mrclobberler.substack.com/p/positive-thinking-what-is-it-good
read my analysis here
Being high in most traits is bad. The key word is optimum. High openness = schizoid, high extraversion: getting into trouble, high agreeableness: gullible, high neuroticism: depression, high conscientiousness: rigidity and inability to adapt to new situations. Optimum neuroticism: detect danger, effective disgust response and so on. Low neuroticism: put yourself in danger for lack of fear detection.
What kind of maniac doesn't use pillow cases?
a maniac that wants what ever crawled out of his own saliva to be fruitful and multiply.....
Parallel between ick factor realisation and religious revelation is interesting. Idea of subconscious perceptions and sensations gradually building up to be triggered by final innocuous event. Rather reminds me of certain groups and their behaviours, which over time, like death by a thousand small cuts, propel an individual further along a particular path until finally, some book or speech or substack article launches them into a wholly new understanding of reality, wherein a great deal that previously made little sense at all, or was just jarringly irregular or irrational, suddenly becomes clear in the brightest of colours and contrasts.
For those curious, I'd recommend "My Awakening" by David Duke - one of the most eye-opening books I've ever read
Here's a good interview with Duke on tv in 1999, giving a brief overview of the book:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?122184-1/my-awakening
This video states the truth. I totally understand the pencil case issue. It happened to me once when I saw my then boyfriend crying like a child. I can't describe the feeling of disgust/disrespect that I had and it never went away. I never got over it and eventually broke up with him. I never told him the real reason why we broke up since I was and still am ashamed of admitting it, definitely not proud of that. I know other women with pretty similar stories.
And interesting the phenomena where after ruthlessly ending the relationship as you say because of accretive instances , but manifesting as revelation, the opposite can occur, I.e. maybe the female has misread her own sexual marketplace value , maybe the man makes a few changes to his persona or appearance , and suddenly the ex is running after your car as you try to exit the supermarket begging you to return (as happened to me)...
Yup, same happened to me. And I never take them back into a serious relationship because you can't trust them. I know that they will just give me the ick again over something else. So that's when they make good concubine material because i'm rich and the girl won't leave. You still get icks from woman when you make lots of money and are muscular with 10% body fat. You just don't see them doing it. It's just that the money and muscles compensates for the icks they feel. I'm currently looking for a partner and I test woman to find the best one. I test by finding out their secret icks about me. If they have any icks, I don't take them seriously. But I will fuck the shit out of them. I mean really, I'm rich and got a good body but they still got icks. Woman are crazy.
So the way the Ick-factor functions is via randomness of the eliciting phenomena (with due apologies to Sandra Bullock)?
Ok, I’ll bite. I broke up with a man who used to say “coffee drinks” and “treats”, as in, “would you like me to make you a coffee drink?” And “let’s all go back to my house and have some treats.” I was like nails on a chalkboard. He wasn’t gay, didn’t have that gay-sounding voice that so many men have now, it was incongruous. And he had a lot of money and my mom liked him, but in the end, I just couldn’t put up with it. I’m sure there were other things he said, but those stick out in my head 15 years later.